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    Any free DNC software?

    Is there any DNC/file transferring shareware around? I am writing the progs in notepad and all I need to do is get them transferred to the lathe via RS232. Don't even need to drip feed actually just file transfer.
    Hoping to save a few $, any where to look?
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    OneCNC has a free one. You have to contact the sales office for a link to it. AFAIK, they're easy to deal with and won't bother you with sales calls after the fact.
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    Cadem Lite is still free. I’ve used it, mostly for backing up controls and parameters. They used to supply the best connection, cable pin outs, transfer, set up information around. I think they charge for that now.
    http://www.cadem.com/dnc/freednc.htm
    You do get on their mailing list, but nothing too obnoxious.
    Regards Phil.
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    Originally Posted by HuFlungDung
    OneCNC has a free one. You have to contact the sales office for a link to it. AFAIK, they're easy to deal with and won't bother you with sales calls after the fact.
    http://www.onecnc.net/general/dnc_request.htm
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    Also, instead of using notepad, I strongly suggest you get PSpad.
    http://www.pspad.com
    It's free and you can set up a syntax with multiple colors for different types of codes, etc. You can also organize your programs into projects so that all programs for a certain part are included in the project.
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    Microsoft Terminal

    I use the old Microsoft Terminal program.
    It drip feeds and or loads just fine.
    I've used it to drip 2 machines at the same time from one computer with two different RS232 ports.
    As long as you are doing 2 1/2 D parts it keeps up very well.
    If you can find a copy of it, it can run in win 98. I haven't tried it in xp yet.
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    drip feed with microsoft terminal

    drip feed with microsoft terminal ???
    you mean hyperterminal ? i use it to transfer cnc files by rs-232 serial port.
    what parameters or how do you get it to drip feed?
    do you just slow baud rate? or use software or hardware handshaking?
    forgive me for asking, i have never tried DNC
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    Originally Posted by DMF_TomB
    drip feed with microsoft terminal ???
    you mean hyperterminal ? i use it to transfer cnc files by rs-232 serial port.
    what parameters or how do you get it to drip feed?
    do you just slow baud rate? or use software or hardware handshaking?
    forgive me for asking, i have never tried DNC
    I used three wires and Xon Xoff communication. I had to set the machine then go to the computer and start feeding the program. I think I was using 4800 Baud.
    Actually it's the old 'TERMINAL' program, Before Hyper terminal. I confess I didn't figure it out in Hyper. so I don't know how it works there.
    Back in the day of Windows 3.1. Waaaay back,
    I have a copy and how to set it up if your interested.
    You will want do do some simple tricks to make it comfortable to use; but it does a smooth job.
    When I was using two iterations of it, one for each machine I was worried what might happen if both machines needed 'code' at the same time. It was cool. You could watch it stair step up alternating between machines.
    In 2.5D machining there is time between commands as you mill the side of a part (for instance) which gives plenty of time for Terminal to feed the other machine.
    I used to run both machines and play Solitare at the same time on an old 286 computer.
    When the machines needed 'code' the Solitare card being flipped would hang in the air until the machine was fed.
    Fun to watch.
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    DNC with terminal

    thank you for DNC info
    Xon and Xoff so when machine is ready for more CNC sends ok to send more every so many bits or bytes and computer sends it til given signal to stop. Same as 2 computers sending a file from one to another.
    Microsoft Terminal I would have to find old Win3.1 computer. Hyperterminal works although sometimes it malfunctions (not sure why) and computer needs restart. I have other software that came with mastercam for rs-232 sending files. It might DNC if I set Xon and Xoff software flow control. Mastercam software has built in text editor. I send file to CNC and send it back to computer to see if 'translation' by CNC is ok(edit if needed). then i send it back to CNC.
    So on some machines that use no flow control DNC would not work, but newer machines that use software flow control (handshaking) might be able to DNC. Prototrak Plus mill has no rs-232 flow control. But Prototrak AGE mill I think might have it so maybe can do DNC. This would be useful as Prototrak has memory or file size limit of about 20kb or 330 lines of gcode.
    Thank you I will try DNC
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    hi,why don't you try to use this, DNC Transfer Device basic model ~ DNC Transfer Device - Transfer file to CNC machine - DNC Communication with HP TFTP software, transfer dnc via rs232 to cnc machine
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    Originally Posted by cnchiepphat
    hi,why don't you try to use this, DNC Transfer Device basic model ~ DNC Transfer Device - Transfer file to CNC machine - DNC Communication with HP TFTP software, transfer dnc via rs232 to cnc machine
    That is a good tip. I somehow get the feeling this matter has already been sorted?
    Brent
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    Originally Posted by yardbird
    That is a good tip. I somehow get the feeling this matter has already been sorted?
    Brent
    What tipped you off? The fact he bumped a 7 YEAR OLD thread?
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    How much is this gizmo? Kinda cool with WiFi, actually.
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    just try DNC Transfer Device - Transfer file to CNC machine - DNC Communication
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    What would you be willing to pay for RS232 communication software that would provide the capabilities listed below? This would be written to run on Microsoft XP to communicate with RS232 on virtually any HAAS CNC and maybe some Fanuc systems.
    1. Software would be started at the computer, and left running continuously.
    2. Any CNC programs to be used at the CNC would be placed at a known location in the computer. This location might and probably would be different than your archival location.
    3. A known location in the computer would exist for receiving programs or data from the CNC.
    4. From the CNC screen you could specify one or more files to be sent from the computer to the CNC, and initiate the send operation from the CNC. Eliminates walking to the computer to send programs.
    5. At anytime you could send programs or data from the CNC to the computer.
    There are obviously saturation problems at the computer that would limit effective simultaneous use of a large number of channels.
    In a sense this question relates to physical exercise (walking), cost of time, convenience, laziness, elasticity of demand, distance between computer and CNC, and other factors.
    This question is not about whether you would like this capability, but what would you actually be willing to pay for this function.
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    I am using a program called DNC precision from aggsoft.com. It was about $90 with the great exchange rate as it is (sarcasm mode) and seems to do everything you mention, but I have not tested running it as a service in the background all of the time. I am not running this on a Haas, but a sharp with a fanuc 0imate mb, but they claim that it runs as well on haas. Setup was simple once I got the machines talking. The sharp documentation showed one thing and theirs showed something else, so I said what the hell and installed a db25 null modem adapter dongle on the end of the serial cable and it now works. They have a free demo that you can download that is worth a look.
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    Mickey_D:
    Could you explain in detail when you are at the CNC how you request from the CNC to the computer that a particular file in a particular subdirectory be sent to the CNC, and how you transition to receive at the CNC? What are the constraints? Can you work with long file names, and how long? Can you request a number of files, maybe from different subdirectories, and have these sent and received as one group?
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    Most PC based controls can be networked to the existing company network. With some IT setup you can do what you say. Okuma's Thinc control is capable of this, and it's standard on the machine.
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    Our PC-DNC Plus software does all that you describe, and we've been selling it for years.
    We've found, however, that potential users who want a 'do-it-yourself' solution aren't willing to pay much for it (as illustrated by the previous responses). We see it this way: Our customers aren't paying us for the software. They're paying us for the SERVICE that we provide that enables them to wire up their entire shop. We regularly go into shops that have CNC controls that are 30 years old sitting right next to some of the latest Ethernet equipped controls. Even shops that have new machines with Ethernet ports sometimes prefer an RS232 solution because the entire shop can use the same system. Sure, we sell the software, but we also sell several different HARDWARE solutions including Wireless Ethernet, Ethernet Serial Device Servers, MultiPort serial boards, USB serial hubs, etc. In most cases, our customers want us to show up, connect all their machines, prove that it works, and train their people how to use it.
    To request a file from our system, the user creates a 1-block long file in the CNC memory. On the DNC side, the user can assign a string of characters as a 'file request' command, like for example (GET- (or) (SENDME- or whatever you want.
    At the CNC, the user edits his file name into the 1-block request program, like this example for a Fanuc:
    O1234 (GET-MYFILENAME.NC) (or, if you want to specify a directory):
    O1234 (GET-/DIRECTORYNAME/MYFILENAME.NC)
    You send this message file to PC-DNC Plus, wait 2 seconds, then press your READ or INPUT buttons to receive the file. You will either get your file or a '(FILE NOT FOUND)' message
    There are a few model controls out there that cant' edit comments, so we also let you use a simple 4-digit O-number request like:
    O1234 T5678 ;
    This would request file O5678 from the PC-DNC system. On the DNC side, we can assume any file extension, file name prefix or suffix, and we can even search all the files with long file names for the requested O-number.
    You can also have PC-DNC Plus search across several directories for your requested file, or search all sub-directories within your assigned directory for the file. You can also request a list of available files, monitor machine cycle activity, monitor switches & relays on the machines, get e-mail alerts when something happens on the machine, automatically download tooling data from a presetter, use barcode readers to request files, drip-feed long files, use BTR boards for older CNCs, automaticall update tool offsets using an RS232 gauge, etc. etc.
    The DNC business is very crowded with good products, and we have several worthy competitiors that offer good software. You can't get it for free (or for $200) though. Some DNC companies sell the software at a low price, then require you to pay a yearly fee for 'maintenance'. We charge a fair price up front, and then provide free software updates and phone support for life.
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    Listen to Dan..been using various versions of their software for over twenty years..it's the way to go!
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    hi, i think you should try this DNC Transfer Device - Transfer file to CNC machine - DNC Communication
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    Originally Posted by gar
    This question is not about whether you would like this capability, but what would you actually be willing to pay for this function.
    Originally Posted by cnchiepphat
    hi, i think you should try this DNC Transfer Device - Transfer file to CNC machine - DNC Communication
    IOW pay to have someone point me to where to RTFM so as to use the OS utilities already THERE?
    Not a lot.
    Bill
    Last edited by Monarchist; 06-06-2016 at 04:59 AM.
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    Originally Posted by Monarchist
    IOW pay to have someone point me to where to RTFM so as to use the OS utilities already THERE?
    Not a lot.
    Bill
    Lets guess, you'd use hyperterminal to load the CNC machines you don't own and have never used. 'No one has a fucking clue what you are taking about ever' - YouTube
    BTW, You're quoting a cat from 2007. Pretty sure Gar passed away.
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    Originally Posted by cnchiepphat
    hi, i think you should try this http://www.socialannex.com/blog/wp-content/uploads1/2015/02/nospam.jpg
    How about you piss right off, and take your spam with you. 4 posts and all with the same link.
    Your web site still claims.
    The output of this decive [sic] is a RS232 port or parallel port
    How many CNC's will accept a parallel connection?
    Your wasting your time here. Just who do you think will buy your stuff?
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    Originally Posted by machtool
    Lets guess, you'd use hyperterminal to load the CNC machines you don't own and have never used. 'No one has a fucking clue what you are taking about ever' - YouTube
    BTW, You're quoting a cat from 2007. Pretty sure Gar passed away.
    None of the above fits, though I did have a Hyperterminal for OS/2 Warp Server license at one time. Handy for Compuserve use, but that's a higher-level telecoms app, not a file and data transfer built-in OR utility.
    And yes, Gar's last visit was 2012, so..
    But I did fix the oversight as to not quoting the current spam from Vietnam that brought it to the surface.
    Thank you for the oblique heads up on that part.
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    Originally Posted by Monarchist
    None of the above fits, though I did have a Hyperterminal for OS/2 Warp Server license at one time. Handy for Compuserve use, but that's a higher-level telecoms app, not a file and data transfer built-in OR utility.
    Can some one translate that? Does he or does he not use it for DNC.
    Here's a thread for you Bill. Please help about wiring Mitsubishi Meldas M64
    Bloke has Intel i960 chips and all. Should be a real chance to show us how smart you are. Any chance you can get that Mits M64 running should be AWITP, NFPAA, RUYS.
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    Originally Posted by machtool
    Patience. Your anger level isn't high enough yet to make it worth the bother.
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    Originally Posted by Monarchist
    Patience. Your anger level isn't high enough yet to make it worth the bother.
    I wasn't asking you. I was hoping some one that's ever seen a CNC machine might have some hind sight.
    Loyalty of the true brothers, that actually make things or need things repaired, would swing my way, regardless of how much bull shit and gum flapping you can spew.
    Originally Posted by Monarchist
    though I did have a Hyperterminal for OS/2 Warp Server license at one time. Handy for Compuserve use, but that's a higher-level telecoms app, not a file and data transfer built-in OR utility.

    Is there any one here that's ever Compuserved their OS/2 Warp Fanuc / Yasnac / Mits / Siemens/ Fadal or other?
    Pretty sure we never had to talk Solar thru that, so it never happened.
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    Originally Posted by machtool
    For an otherwise bright and accomplished guy - I've read many of your ADULT posts, too - the puzzling thing is how you periodically set yerself up for manipulation by someone you consider BENEATH you?
    Whatever other resources you might command, you'll never match simple patience in that sort of contest.
    OTOH. I just might die before you do.
    Pyrrhic victory though. I'll care even less then than now, even if someone reads your crowing over it to my ashes over an RS-232 link.
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    Originally Posted by machtool
    BTW, You're quoting a cat from 2007. Pretty sure Gar passed away.
    I haven't talked to Gordon in quite awhile. His website is still up though. he might be active at the other (inferior ) cnc forum.
    http://www.beta-a2.com
    He was super helpful with tech support and his I232 rs232 setup worked flawless. I've moved on to eithernet and/or usb so no need to try to contact him latley.
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    Originally Posted by Monarchist
    For an otherwise bright and accomplished guy - I've read many of your ADULT posts, too - the puzzling thing is how you periodically set yerself up for manipulation by someone you consider BENEATH you?
    Whatever other resources you might command, you'll never match simple patience in that sort of contest.
    OTOH. I just might die before you do.
    Pyrrhic victory though    . I'll care even less then than now, even if someone reads your crowing over it to my ashes over an RS-232 link.
    I'm sorry I thought that was really funny.. Which begs the question are all our crazy posts going to be on PM forum a 100 years from now (kinda creepy thought?).. Don't worry about machtool (I love the Ozzies..), it must be difficult to get attention when there is at least a 14 hour time difference between Canberra and Washinton DC.
    BTW @ Monarchist I think you posted on the Epic 'Ox's Ghost in the machine thread' the following
    'Los que se llamen 'Computadores' se trabajan con putas.'
    speaking of translation.. ;-)
    Unfortunately I only have barn Spanglish (yet a great respect for the Spanish language and wish to learn more..) I am stumped as to find a good translation of that as a play on words for 'con putas' (with whores) and computadores (in the way you make that) ? :-)
    Ta.
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    Originally Posted by cameraman
    I'm sorry I thought that was really funny.. Which begs the question are all our crazy posts going to be on PM forum a 100 years from now (kinda creepy thought?).. Don't worry about machtool (I love the Ozzies..), it must be difficult to get attention when there is at least a 14 hour time difference between Canberra and Washinton DC.
    BTW @ Monarchist I think you posted on the Epic 'Ox's Ghost in the machine thread' the following
    'Los que se llamen 'Computadores' se trabajan con putas.'
    speaking of translation.. ;-)
    Unfortunately I only have barn Spanglish (yet a great respect for the Spanish language and wish to learn more..) I am stumped as to find a good translation of that as a play on words for 'con putas' (with whores) and computadores (in the way you make that) ? :-)
    Ta.
    Phil and I zing each other now and then. I hope he doesn't take it 'personal' any more than I do. and crustiness of OF's may lend more humour and insight into how the trade 'was' a hundred years out that it did last week.
    The somewhat poetically-licentious translation was indeed meant to be:
    'Those who call themselves computer workers work with whores.'
    It is old. Very. IBM 6XX unit-record equipment and diode-plugboards were still in use when I first heard it.
    And they were riddled with holes. In more ways than one, so.
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